tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11556657.post7405283656638627645..comments2023-10-08T05:44:25.657-06:00Comments on Dakota Voice: Dems Get Religion in Denver: All the Better to Eat You WithDakota Voicehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01386070103210525597noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11556657.post-54259864618229460762008-09-09T05:48:00.000-06:002008-09-09T05:48:00.000-06:00No, Curt, this has NOT been "settled law" for near...No, Curt, this has NOT been "settled law" for nearly 150 years; this has been the opinion of anti-Christian judges who have forced this on Americans for about 50 years.<BR/><BR/>You really should go back and read more history. Many of the states even had state churches long after the Constitution was ratified. <BR/><BR/>But if the evidence I already provided still doesn't lead you to the truth,Bob Ellishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10413354616356999953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11556657.post-34530383411166096942008-09-08T22:36:00.000-06:002008-09-08T22:36:00.000-06:00Bob, the First Amendment (and all the others) appl...Bob, the First Amendment (and all the others) applies to states as well as Congress. It prohibits the states (including state schools) from endorsing any religion. A school-led prayer is a state endorsement of religion. You can't honestly argue that it's not.<BR/><BR/>"Secularism" is not hostile to religion, it's a descriptive term that means not pertaining to religion. Our Constitution set up a Curt Cameronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08048312089881459521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11556657.post-8041756161319777892008-09-08T15:10:00.000-06:002008-09-08T15:10:00.000-06:00You are very, very ill in formed, Curt. Those "peo...You are very, very ill in formed, Curt.<BR/> <BR/>Those "people in the past" who didn't see any conflict would be the people who founded the country and wrote the Constitution. I'd think they might know a teeny thing about the Constitution. <BR/> <BR/>While you are close in saying the First Amendment prohibits the government from endorsing any religion, that isn't what it says. It says "Bob Ellishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10413354616356999953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11556657.post-49040041811538756932008-09-08T14:09:00.000-06:002008-09-08T14:09:00.000-06:00Bob, no one is preventing students from praying si...Bob, no one is preventing students from praying silently or reading their Bibles. You've been lied to. What's prohibited is school-endorsed prayers. If people in the past didn't see any conflict between school-sponsored prayers and the Constitution, then they are unfamiliar with the Constitution. The First Amendment prohibits the government from endorsing any religion.<BR/><BR/>You talk of Curt Cameronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08048312089881459521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11556657.post-70425352028314573862008-09-08T13:14:00.000-06:002008-09-08T13:14:00.000-06:00First, Curt, we had "school sponsored prayers" in ...First, Curt, we had "school sponsored prayers" in the public schools of this country and no one saw any problems with it or any conflict with the Constitution. No one was being forced to believe anything or to pay to support a particular religious institutions. <BR/><BR/>Given that our nation was founded on Judeo-Christian values and philosophy, and that 90% or more of Americans have been Bob Ellishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10413354616356999953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11556657.post-8260820131102712092008-09-08T09:36:00.000-06:002008-09-08T09:36:00.000-06:00How could anyone think that allowing schools to fa...How could anyone think that allowing schools to favor one religion over another, by allowing school-sponsored prayers or proselytizing, would be consistent with religious freedom?<BR/><BR/>The only way to promote freedom of religion is to have a secular government, one that doesn't endorse any religion. No one is kept from praying to himself in school - but the school can't coerce the students toCurt Cameronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08048312089881459521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11556657.post-66953753271328910962008-08-28T17:43:00.000-06:002008-08-28T17:43:00.000-06:00There's a big difference between going through the...There's a big difference between going through the motions to check your card punched and real religion. A lot of folks aren't the least bit concerned about walking the walk.<BR/> <BR/>Jesus said, "If you love me, you will obey what I command." The DNC believes in few of the things Christ commanded, and promotes many of the ones he said <EM>not</EM> to do:<BR/> <BR/>- Take innocent human life<Bob Ellishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10413354616356999953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11556657.post-19936086437921843882008-08-25T22:09:00.000-06:002008-08-25T22:09:00.000-06:00Sigh.Republicans don't have a monopoly on Christia...Sigh.<BR/><BR/>Republicans don't have a monopoly on Christianity. I'm a liberal Christian who goes to church every week. All the Democrats I know are Christian and most go to church every week like I do.<BR/><BR/>I've been disappointed in the past that the Democratic Party shied away from discussing religion, so I'm glad to see them doing those events to speak to all the religious Democrats Haggshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14166561705752864879noreply@blogger.com