tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11556657.post5471038794856830299..comments2023-10-08T05:44:25.657-06:00Comments on Dakota Voice: Rick Warren on Responsibility for Homosexual BehaviorDakota Voicehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01386070103210525597noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11556657.post-18577629970819302062008-12-21T20:31:00.000-07:002008-12-21T20:31:00.000-07:00If the physical and spiritual consequences weren't...If the physical and spiritual consequences weren't so serious, your advanced state of denial would be hilarious. As it is, it's just plain sad.Bob Ellishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10413354616356999953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11556657.post-74215175307907027002008-12-21T20:24:00.000-07:002008-12-21T20:24:00.000-07:00Bob, you don't have to lie for proselytizing's sak...Bob, you don't have to lie for proselytizing's sake. We both know that nothing in the world could ever make you want to have sex with a man. Yes, it is impossible for you to change. And if you keep looking at homosexuality as some kind of addiction, you will always be tragically misguided on the subject.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11556657.post-40197906417675081112008-12-21T19:56:00.000-07:002008-12-21T19:56:00.000-07:00I didn't say it was impossible for me to change; j...I didn't say it was impossible for me to change; just that I feel no need to. Part of what helps me not need to is the realization that homosexual behavior is immoral, thus putting my soul in jeopardy, and is also fraught with health risks. Just as a realization of these things helps me to <EM>no longer</EM> feel the need to drink to excess. See, change is indeed possible for me. <BR/><BR/>Bob Ellishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10413354616356999953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11556657.post-91015891480384571272008-12-21T19:18:00.000-07:002008-12-21T19:18:00.000-07:00You feel no compulsion to have sex with men. I fe...You feel no compulsion to have sex with men. I feel no compulsion to have sex with women. But between the two of us, why am I the one for whom change is possible and you are not? Do you think you could ever learn to find men sexually attractive? Was there a point in your life when you consciously and deliberately decided to focus all of your sexual energy exclusively toward women? Of course Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11556657.post-78314934787374714512008-12-21T17:12:00.000-07:002008-12-21T17:12:00.000-07:00Homosexuality used to be criminal in many places. ...Homosexuality used to be criminal in many places. The reason why was that our civilization was built on Christian principles, and Christianity recognizes that homosexual behavior is immoral and contrary to God's design for human sexuality, which is between a man and a woman.<BR/><BR/>If a husband and wife sodomize each other, they are not having sex in the manner God intended for procreation. Bob Ellishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10413354616356999953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11556657.post-12653369532005528062008-12-21T16:34:00.000-07:002008-12-21T16:34:00.000-07:00Bob,Just a few thoughts regarding your reply the o...Bob,<BR/><BR/>Just a few thoughts regarding your reply the other day:<BR/><BR/>"Homosexuality is similar to polygamy, incest and pedophilia in that it, like those behaviors, is an unnatural and immoral sexual behavior which violates God's design for human sexuality."<BR/><BR/>Are you implying that gay people are criminals? If homosexuality is indeed similar to polygamy, incest, and pedophilia, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11556657.post-44401500536810632392008-12-20T06:58:00.000-07:002008-12-20T06:58:00.000-07:00I realize I am feeding the troll here, but I thoug...I realize I am feeding the troll here, but I thought I would put some accurate information on your board. (You know, just in case some innocent gay person came here and became confused.)<BR/><BR/>1.) Condoms really do protect against virus transmission. It is recommended that you use them. There is definite evidence that condom use protects against HIV transmission.<BR/><BR/>2.) A lot of straightAmiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10505439562386451881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11556657.post-13665979686072081882008-12-19T16:16:00.000-07:002008-12-19T16:16:00.000-07:00Haggs, I can't see into your heart to know the act...Haggs, I can't see into your heart to know the actual status of your relationship with Christ, so I can't know for certain whether you are or aren't a Christian.<BR/><BR/>However, Christ did say we would know a Christian by their fruits, and when you condone and endorse a behavior that God has made extremely clear is immoral and violates his design for human sexuality, I have to wonder. Bob Ellishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10413354616356999953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11556657.post-80111879970258058452008-12-19T15:42:00.000-07:002008-12-19T15:42:00.000-07:00cinemaphile85, homosexuality is similar to polygam...cinemaphile85, homosexuality is similar to polygamy, incest and pedophilia in that it, like those behaviors, is an unnatural and immoral sexual behavior which violates God's design for human sexuality. <BR/><BR/>It is also irrelevant to consider whether "you want the gay community to accept your point of view and admit that you are right" because barring a long chain of events in their life Bob Ellishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10413354616356999953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11556657.post-53828072841333530312008-12-19T15:32:00.000-07:002008-12-19T15:32:00.000-07:00"Claim." Nice choice of words there Bob. I do no..."Claim." Nice choice of words there Bob. I do not claim to be a Christian. I AM a Christian. I believe with all my heart that Jesus Christ sacrificed His life to save all of us from sin. I believe in the Holy Trinity. I believe that while doing good works is not a requirement to get into Heaven, our faith in Jesus should compel us to be Christ-like and do good works in our lives. I've goneHaggshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14166561705752864879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11556657.post-27374939039115086452008-12-19T14:59:00.000-07:002008-12-19T14:59:00.000-07:00Bob, I won't answer for Haggs, but I also thought ...Bob, <BR/><BR/>I won't answer for Haggs, but I also thought Warren's comments about gay marriage were stupid. He has gone on the record as saying that he equates a homosexual relationship to polygamy, incest, and pedophilia. This is stupid both logically and politically. How do you even begin to compare a relationship between two people of the same sex with those other things?! And Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11556657.post-33013630606410742882008-12-19T11:05:00.000-07:002008-12-19T11:05:00.000-07:00Haggs, you claim to be a Christian, right? What s...Haggs, you claim to be a Christian, right? What specifically did you find "stupid" about Warren's comments on the concept of homosexual "marriage"?<BR/><BR/>I haven't been impressed with what I've heard of Warren's involvement in AIDS policy because I haven't heard very much about <EM>responsibility</EM>, and avoiding the behavior most likely to result in the transmission of AIDS. <BR/><BR/>Bob Ellishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10413354616356999953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11556657.post-88377238741358081362008-12-19T10:43:00.000-07:002008-12-19T10:43:00.000-07:00It doesn't surprise me that you liked those statem...It doesn't surprise me that you liked those statements from Pastor Warren. I thought his statements on gay marriage were very stupid.<BR/><BR/>But I'd rather dig deeper into your thoughts on AIDS. What don't you like about Warren's work on the AIDS issue? And so what if the CDC says most AIDS cases come from homosexual activity? You do think HIV and AIDS should be treated, right?Haggshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14166561705752864879noreply@blogger.com